Pop and Play
A podcast from Teachers College, Columbia University about play and pop culture. Professors Haeny Yoon and Nathan Holbert take play seriously. They talk with educators, parents and kids about how they play in their work and their lives, and why play matters. The views expressed in this podcast are solely those of the speaker to whom they are attributed. They do not necessarily reflect the views of the faculty, administration, staff or Trustees either of Teachers College or of Columbia University.
Digging into Gardening and What Makes Outdoor Play Special
This week, Haeny and Nathan get into some dirt with John McCann-Doyle, Outdoor Education Specialist...
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Do you know what dinking in the kitchen is? Well this week, Haeny and Nathan tried pickleball and found...
EscucharSynchronized Ice Skating and How to Learn Difficult Things
This week Haeny’s niece Emily comes on the show to teach Haeny and Nathan about synchronized ice skating!...
EscucharCan Rules in Games Help Us Find Deeper Freedom?
Can rules give us more freedom? How can games help us make life more process oriented instead of outcome...
EscucharDungeons and Dragons and… Second Grade?
This week second-grade teachers Michael DiGregorio and Carly Haber join Haeny and Nathan to talk about...
EscucharWhat Counts as Reading?
Is listening to an audiobook reading? What should you do if your kid only wants to read graphic novels,...
EscucharIn the (After School) Club
Join Haeny and Nathan in the club! We mean the after school club, of course. Can Haeny still tap dance?...
EscucharProtest Music and Striking Notes of Resistance
Protest music and acts of protest from musicians are in the news right now. What is the role of music...
EscucharBest Pop Culture and Play Moments of 2025
This week Haeny and Nathan are sharing their top moments in play and pop culture from 2025! What is...
EscucharWoodworking and When Playing Around Becomes a Serious Craft
How do you know when what you started playing around with has become a serious craft? This week Haeny...
EscucharShould We Stop Saying "Kids These Days"?
Kids these days just don’t know what it was like back in our day. Which makes sense, cause they’re,...
EscucharA Very Special Holiday Music Pop Off!
Welcome to a very special holiday music pop off! In this festive bonus episode, Haeny, Nathan, and special...
EscucharWhat is the Purpose of School?
A Pew Center Report from 2024 prompts Haeny and Nathan to ask a big question: “What is the Purpose...
EscucharWhat's Poppin' for Haeny and Nathan?!
This week, Haeny and Nathan finally get to share what’s poppin’ for them! Enough politely making...
EscucharThe Life of a Showgirl and Being a Swiftie
Welcome to Season 6 and our first “play date”! Listen along with Haeny and Nathan and guest and...
EscucharIt’s Halloween! Is Scary Play Okay?
Nathan and Haeny get all dressed up for Halloween! Well, Nathan does. Can you guess Haeny’s secret...
EscucharHow is Play Policed and Who Gets to Decide?
What are the implications of controlling play? Haeny and Nathan ask what forms autocratic control can...
EscucharWhat's Poppin': Summer Edition
This week Haeny and Nathan are here to talk about Summer Break! Just in time for it to be over. But...
EscucharThe Impacts of Cutting Federal Funding For Research (Pop Off)
Nathan and Haeny are back for another Pop Off about recent cuts to funding for federal research. And...
EscucharWhat’s Poppin’ at the End of the World: A Story Episode
Haeny and Nathan aren’t just here to talk about children’s media - in this season finale, they’re...
EscucharWhat Are Kids Watching? (With Kids!)
What kinds of shows and media are kids into these days? Haeny and Nathan go straight to the source to...
EscucharCentering Play in Children’s Media with Teletubbies Co-creator Andy Davenport
Haeny and Nathan welcome to the show Andy Davenport, one of the creators of the hit children’s show...
EscucharChildren as Creative Collaborators with Story Pirates
In this episode, Haeny and Nathan talk with two of the creators of the award-winning kids and family...
EscucharHow Children’s Media Is Changing
This season is all about exploring children’s media, and this week Haeny and Nathan talk with Emily...
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